Template talk:Modern North American Toyota trucks

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Most international readers estimate the year to be the year calendar . This is especially true when comparing Toyota vehicles among countries. So I have explicitly added the model year to the template. This has little adverse value for N.American readers and helps non N.American readers very much. Stepho-wrs (talk) 23:06, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

There are many templates out there used by year models - see via Category: Automotive companies - Timeline timeline for North America, Category: General Motors framework framework (mostly), and Category: Chrysler framework LLC, for example. For international readers unfamiliar with the concept of model years, I'm not sure how to introduce them to them, but I do not think putting them on every North American timeline is the best way, especially when it suggests there may be an alternative way of timelines, whereas actually it's the only logical way, because that's how the car is marketed. --Vossanova ^{o & lt;} 17:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

We still have a fundamental problem that international readers are not sure whether templates use calendar year (like most other Toyota templates) or US models for years (like most US templates). Worse still, hints in US readers will not be sure if it's in their original format (model year) or has been internationalized (calendar year). In short, nobody knows which one. Having the same problem on many other pages does not make it acceptable here. It should be made explicit at least once. Stepho-wrs (talk) 22:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I doubt your claim. This template has been like this for a while, and I have not heard of any other complaints. I can easily say that all European templates should say "calendar year" to them because North Americans consider them to mean year models by default. If you want, we can bring this to Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Automobiles for consensus. --Vossanova ^{o & lt;} 14:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, good idea - let's see what others say. Stepho-wrs (talk) 22:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)