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Why was the Template:Hidden title added to this article on 21 October 2017? That template wasn't meant for ordinary Wikipedia pages (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 July 21#Template:Hidden title. Not having a title displayed makes copy/paste of the article name impossible. Please remove that template. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:17, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- They were added to the 3 automated "New user landing pages" like Wikipedia:Article_wizard ....if you need to link the page we have short cuts.--Moxy (talk) 14:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- If I want to point a new editor to this page, presenting it as H:GS will not tell them what is meant. I shouldn't have written "impossible". Of course I know that there are several other ways to get the ordinary page name for cut/paste purposes, it's only impossible with my normal method: double click the page name and Ctrl+C. It just struck me as very odd when I looked at the page and there was no page name. Looking at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Hidden title showed that it's only used on Article Wizard and Wikipedia Adventure pages - and this one. I didn't see the connection. I still don't see the need to hide the title on this page, but ... <shrug />. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am not sure how to explain...but these are Wikipedia:New user landing pages that are automated ....as in new editors are directed here by bot or redirect due to an action. We have Wikipedia:Instructional material--Moxy (talk) 21:22, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
- I must support concerns raised by Michael Bednarek at the recent hiding of this page's title. I see no reason for it; it does indeed make linking to this page much harder. Showing "Help:Getting started" is never going to confuse any user - it's a convention they're going to see throughout their Wikipedia editing days. I'm currently putting an online and printed help sheet together for new editors at editathons. No longer having a clear, linkabe page title is a retrograde step in my view, and should be restored asap. I'm afraid the explanation for this (given above) failed to impart any understanding on my part. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- I have restored the title. That they are aimed at newbies is no reason these pages should break with the convention used across the rest of Wikipedia, in fact it's a reason they should follow it. the wub "?!" 13:00, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- I must support concerns raised by Michael Bednarek at the recent hiding of this page's title. I see no reason for it; it does indeed make linking to this page much harder. Showing "Help:Getting started" is never going to confuse any user - it's a convention they're going to see throughout their Wikipedia editing days. I'm currently putting an online and printed help sheet together for new editors at editathons. No longer having a clear, linkabe page title is a retrograde step in my view, and should be restored asap. I'm afraid the explanation for this (given above) failed to impart any understanding on my part. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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